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ACTA; The quickest way to bore someone to death


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Okay. So, it may well have been talked about for a few days by some of you, but the rest of you.

Have you seen this ACTA proposal? the full title being;

Proposed US ACTA multi-lateral intellectual property trade agreement

Basically, the entire point of this.. Thing is to kill piracy. Specifically sites like The Pirate Bay, where they don't do anything but provide the means to download copyrighted material, and search for it. Much like Google does with websites, but much more specific to piracy.

However, while most of the bill is pretty.. Normal for the government, there is one line that caught my attention, and caused alarm. Bear in mind, please, that this is under discussion by some first world countries so far the known ones being the US, Japan, Switzerland, and the European Commission (IE: The EU, give or take a few things).

"as well as measures restricting the use of online privacy tools."

That statement is so vague that it could well be taken as any attempt to use privacy enabling tools would be illegal. As in. Good by privacy in the world of computers.

While I agree with the need to can piracy, invasion of privacy is just downright ridiculous. There is no need for it.

Full proposed bill can be found; here.

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    ӝspot

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    My views on the need/non-need/etc of why the proposal is being discussed ASIDE.

    I agree that anything THAT VAGUE, is a serious problem!

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    05.24.08 8:09 pm
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      ӝNirach

      Worrying is about as effective as chewing gum to solve algebra

      It's certainly not encouraging, is it?
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      05.24.08 8:14 pm
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        ӝspot

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        Not at all. But you know... capitalism must reign! Must make more money! Must must must! </sarcasm>
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        05.24.08 8:18 pm
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          ӝNirach

          Worrying is about as effective as chewing gum to solve algebra

          Oh, absolutely, let me just bend over the table and empty my wallet into some media tycoons!
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          05.24.08 8:26 pm
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            Oh.


            ...what?





            It's an eAnal Rape attempt every time the idiots rear their hideous heads. :[
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            05.24.08 8:52 pm
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              ӝNirach

              Worrying is about as effective as chewing gum to solve algebra

              I'll never bend over for you :p
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              05.24.08 9:05 pm
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                Ah, so you admit there IS someone you would bend over for then.






                Freak. :P
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                05.25.08 12:16 am
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                  ӝNirach

                  Worrying is about as effective as chewing gum to solve algebra

                  Yeah, Lian Li :B
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                  05.25.08 10:38 am
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    bah, im fed up with this sort of stuff. Piracy is bad, yes, but sacrificing liberty/privacy for the sake of IP security for some big wigs is ridiculous.
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    05.24.08 9:42 pm
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      ӝNirach

      Worrying is about as effective as chewing gum to solve algebra

      Certainly is.

      If it gets any further with the EC I'll be penning my thoughts to someone. Hell, I might even do it anyway.
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      05.24.08 9:47 pm
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    Won The Internet

    I don't think they'll be incredibly successful :p

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    05.25.08 4:31 am
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    Regardless of your stance on piracy, this is another disastrous case of the USA trying to police the world to its own ends.

    I hope they nuke this bill from orbit, cover it in cement, toss it in a lake, and open a wormhole on top of it.

    It's the only way to be sure.

    Oh yes and Nirach, enjoy your communications logging proposal, I do hope you English chaps are organizing some sort of action against it.
    05.25.08 5:18 am
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      ӝNirach

      Worrying is about as effective as chewing gum to solve algebra

      This bill is, regardless of the stance on piracy, is completely useless. I do agree that stonewalling every bill that comes through is not the way to do it on our part, I do believe that there are some things that need to be shot. This is one of them.

      As for actioning the UK thing? I did fire off a letter to my local MP, but he's a half-baked chimp, so I might be firing one off to the PM.. Not that that changes much..
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      05.25.08 10:45 am
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    Time to move over to Freenet whilst we still have some liberties :V
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    05.26.08 4:22 pm
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      ӝNirach

      Worrying is about as effective as chewing gum to solve algebra

      Liberties?

      In the UK?

      We're barely allowed to breathe without a license.
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      05.26.08 10:10 pm
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    ѻmick-mick

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    This is how most things get passed.
    Find a great cause noone will go against and tack on a very small portion that would never make it on its own then the next thing you know we have the ...
    damn it, my tinfoil hat just fell off my head.

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    05.29.08 10:09 pm
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      ӝNirach

      Worrying is about as effective as chewing gum to solve algebra

      Yeah - The subversive tactics of the worlds governments are getting more and more tiresome.

      I'm all for killing piracy, but Jesus, there is no need for killing privacy in general.
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      05.30.08 6:42 am
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        /cosigned
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    Don't worry, Mines still on.
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    05.30.08 3:01 am
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    That's amazingly vague, and the concept of the internet in general is at risk already what with Virgin Media going against Net Neutrality... everything is going downhill since recent years... I'll have to keep my eyes open incase something like this gets passed.
    05.30.08 11:32 am
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      ӝNirach

      Worrying is about as effective as chewing gum to solve algebra

      Yeah - As has already been mentioned, the fact that it's tucked away in a bill for something else means it could well happen. However, it remains to be seen as to what does happen.

      Definitely something to keep your eyes on.
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      05.30.08 3:11 pm